Avon/Danville, Indiana
Chapter 1311 meets on the first Wednesday of the month. See schedule for location and dates
Monthly Newsletter — January 2012
Section 2
Calendar of Events
June 23-24 — Indy Air Show — Indianapolis Regional Airport (MQJ) — "Mount Comfort Airport")
July 23-29 — EAA AirVenture — Oshkosh WI (OSH)
For details on EAA Chapter fly-ins and other local aviation events, visit http://www.eaa.org/events
Next Meeting
The next meeting will be on Wednesday, February 1, 6:30 p.m., at Hendricks County Airport. Program: TBA
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January Meeting Program
Sullenger believes that if the chapter picks the right project, then there are already enough people in the chapter with the experience to solve the issues related to the project.
One issue that has sidelined the discussions in the past has been about whether or not the EAA allows a chapter to own an airplane. Dave Clark reported that a chapter can own, build, construct, or restore and airplane until it is ready to fly. At that point the EAA recommends that the chapter sell it.
Dale Gustafson recommended that if the chapter were to pursue a project, they should contact EAA Chapter 67 in Noblesville about how they resolved their issues about who would be listed as the builder and/or hold the repairman certificate. Gustafson added that the chapter should consider the amounts of money needed to do a project.
John Broyles commended that he would be interested in seeing an aircraft that would qualify as Light Sport be restored or repaired, such as a Champ, Taylorcraft, or other similar aircraft.
Mike Laurenzano advised that the project should at least be a two-seater so that the chapter can get someone checked out in it. As a two-seater, the chapter can always keep training someone, which isn't possible with a one-seat airplane. He added that a two-seater costs less to operate than a four-seater. He added that Sonex designed the One-X airplane because 90% of flying is done solo, so there is very little need to bear the expense of a larger airplane.
Michael Mossman asked if Clark or Gary Reynolds experienced any problems with getting enough volunteers to build the ribs for Paul Poberezny's Bay Ace project. Reynolds replied that the chapter should consider the time needed to build an airplane, and should perhaps think about a restoration for a starter time frame.
Sullenger commented that his partnership with Jon Byrum and Bart Ng invested about 2,000 hours to build an RV. He stated that 2,000 hours by three guys is not necessarily the same as one-third the time as someone with experience, perhaps like Gary Reynolds, would take by himself. There is a great deal of time required to simply organize a project, teach the others, make assignments, etc. Reynolds stated that the builder(s) must squeeze the building time into everything else that has to be done in life.
Clark mentioned that the chapter has a "free run" of Vincennes University's Aviation Technology Center to do work on the project, as long as Dave or John Broyles is there at the time. One caveat is that the Tech Center does not have the room to store the project.
Jim Buist stated that he is interested in all types of building techniques, be it wood, sheet metal or composites. He didn't want the chapter to get bogged down in the merits of one type of material over another.
Mossman presented two project ideas that would have gotten the chapter around the liability issue. The first would be to build some of the pedal airplanes that are often displayed at Oshkosh. The chapter could keep these for the very young kids to play with during our Young Eagles events, or we could give them to a children's hospital or other worthy cause. Another idea would be to build a display aircraft for a museum or perhaps at the new airport terminal. A suitable project might be a replica on an airplane that Col. Weir Cook would have flown.
Laurenzano replied that he would want to see any project that we were involved in fly. Sullenger asked if the other members were as interested in seeing the airplane fly? Buist commented that he didn't care if he actually got to fly it but wanted to be sure that someone would fly it. Sullenger added that he was no interested inputting time into an airplane he isn't going to fly. The general consensus of the participants was that they wanted to build or restore a flying airplane.
Along those lines, Sullenger asked if anyone was interested in working on an airplane if they would not be one of the pilots. Buist replied that he wants the airplane to be flyable at the end and that the chapter be able to get its money out of it ad the end. The chapter could re-invest the money once the project is sold.
At this point Mark Eminger commented that he loves building but it seems to take forever. Due to the depressed prices for aircraft, now appears to be the time to buy an airplane; the price is right. A restorable aircraft could be found at a very reasonable price.
Prior to wrapping up the discussion, Sullenger asked how much time the chapter would like to dedicate to a project, in terms of months. Laurenzano thought that a year to 18 months might be appropriate, and the chapter should then find a project that fits the time frame. Buist appealed for something on the simpler side, perhaps a year or so as an initial project. With experience, the chapter could take on a larger project later. Reynolds reminded the group that all projects need a project manager to get it done. Sullenger volunteered to be the focal point to get a project started, and summed up the meeting by stating that it appeared that the group was leaning more towards a restoration than building from new at this time.
During the round-table wrapup, Sullenger stated that he would like to re-visit the project idea at the March meeting.
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Chapter 1311 will try to list the aviation-related events in Indiana and surrounding states, plus the major events across the country. Do you know of an event that isn't listed? Please inform the newsletter editor to get it included.
March 21 to April 1 — Sun & Fun Fly-In — Lakeland FL (LAL)
Take U.S. 36 (Rockville Road) west past Avon.
Turn left (south) on CR 300 E (84 Lumber is on the SW) corner of the intersection.
At about 1/2 mile turn right (west) into the airport.
The operations building is straight back from the road.
February 1 — Location: Hendricks Co. Airport. Program: TBA
March 7 — Location: Hendricks Co. Airport. Program: TBA
April 4 — Location: Hendricks Co. Airport. Program: TBA
May 2 — Location: Hendricks Co. Airport. Program: TBA
June 6 — Location: Hendricks Co. Airport. Program: TBA
July 4/11 — Location: Hendricks Co. Airport. Program: TBA
August 1/8 — Location: Hendricks Co. Airport. Program: TBA
September 5 — Location: Hendricks Co. Airport. Program: TBA
October 3 — Location: Hendricks Co. Airport. Program: TBA
November 7 — Location: Hendricks Co. Airport. Program: TBA
December — Christmas party. Meeting date and location TBA
2013 meetings — Schedule and location(s) to be announced.
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EAA Chapter 1311's newsletter is published by email notice on the 15th of each month, with a PDF version available on the chapter web site around the 20th. Newsletter contributors: Please email your material to the newsletter editor by the 14th of the month.
President:Vern Sullenger, 1-317-839-8728, vsullenger@gmail.com
Vice President: Mark Eminger, 765-528-2146, tjemee@yahoo.com
Secretary: Michael Mossman, 1-765-483-9533, michaelandkatie1@comcast.net
Treasurer: Doug Moncreiff, 317-280-1621, cdmoncreiff@sbcglobal.net
Director: John Broyles, 317-837-1517, broylkesjohn@sbcglobal.net
Director: Dale "Gus" Gustafson, 1-317-293-4430, dalefaye@msn.com
Director: Mike Laurenzano, 317-201-5889, mikelaurenzano@yahoo.com
Director: Gary Reynolds, 317-745-6223, n98gr@att.net
Director: David Stucker, 317-627-4829, DESTucker@TDS.net
As of December 31, 2011
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By Michael Mossman
Vern Sullenger moderated a round-table discussion of something that has been on his mind for a long time: a chapter building project. He began the discussion by trying to find the level of interest for the chapter to undertake such a project, and advised the group to not get too deep into the details that might stop the project. The idea was for open discussion about how to move forward; if the interest is there then the chapter should find ways to work around the problems.